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  Has Eternal Life become a carrot?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the insight on the scriptures volume 2 pages 248-249 the society says, "so with obedient mankind, when man's last enemy, death, is brought to nothing, there will be no sin working in their bodies to bring death.

  to time indefinite they will not need to die.

  the insight on the scriptures vol 2, page 1102 -what time indefinite can mean, "however, the hebrew expression 'ohlam' does not in itself mean "forever".

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  When the carrot goes mouldy all the GB can do is beat the donkey harder.
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  Theocracy Is Alive And Well In The US

  by Village Idiot in

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  2. current

  i sometimes wonder what it would be like to live under a theocracy.

  this article and upcoming nightline interview will give us a clue.. https://gma.yahoo.com/allegations-against-flds-church-former-police-chief-says-173021013--abc-news-topstories.html.

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  Theocracies have religious police...what a joy that would would be...

  Why is it that US citizens are still so wedded to religion? Why still wedded to myth, mysticism and hope instead of reality?
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  My father is a f*****g a*****e

  by Butyoucanneverleave in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is my first post.

  i just had to get that statement off of my chest!

  my father is one cold hearted judge mental, hypocritical, piece of s**t. i hate this religion and what it has done to my family!

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  And the sad thing is that your father has been encouraged to believe that what he is doing is the best possible thing for his family.
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  The Last Cup [please add an ending]

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good morning, fellow posters and friends:.

  please use your imagination to complete this little tale.

  several endings came to me while drinking my morning cup of coffee on the patio.. thanks.. cc.

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  You dear reader may wonder why...

  I had broken the last commandment: do not be found out. This being 2026 just six years after the great meteor strike, with religious surveillance being complete now for five years, the thought police, considered a jest in the last century had become a reality.

  The seven leaders of the religious cult had turned political and duped the world. They call it God's New Kingdom on Earth... Huh! The giant meteor which landed in central Italy affected the whole world, killing more than half the population mainly in Europe and Asia. Ice and snow fell all over Africa, it rained in the tropical deserts and has been complete drought in Southern USA and most of South America. Floods and droughts in all the wrong places. How could people in this day and age still believe it was a judgement from God? My last coffee.

  I thought I could go undetected but in two hours I will be humanely eliminated at the centre for Religious Justice. It will be a routine show trial with a foregone conclusion. From then it will be all over in fifteen minutes.

  My sabotage plan would have succeeded but for one informer afraid for his life. You can’t blame him, all his family would have to be killed as well when the police elders found out he knew of my scheme. All who dare to think differently to the ruling elite are progressively eliminated. The seven ”Culture Heroes”, as they call themselves, who through psychotic determination, media and mind control, ruthlessly deny the basic needs of humanity. They rule in the name of God with a tyranny unknown to history. My very last coffee.

  The caffeine kicked in and I awoke with a start... If only it would rain!
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  Mind control.

  by New day in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a recent thread someone mentioned that the wtbts uses mind control techniques.

  do you think this is a conscious ploy?

  if it is it would mean that the leaders of my religion (i am still an active jw) set out consciously to control people.

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  @ smiddy, that all religious governing bodies use the same or similar tactics does not make for complicity between them as if they have the same organic root. As you are alluding, most of them do have a common ancestor and that root is Adventism. Yes Mormons are a different species but just as nutty and demanding of slavish obedience.

  However to just look at these religious groups is to ignore the fact that all undemocratic authority be it religious, parental or dictatorships, go unchecked and use the same systems of reward and penalty, information control etc.

  I don’t think they read up on how to pull the wool over the eyes of the less powerful...it seems to be a human weakness of the insecure in power to exploit underdogs. That is why I suggest the GB do not know they are lying, manipulative, narcissists who consciously use “mind control”... it just comes naturally to them in their delusional role as God's chosen ones.
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  Invitation to be a director

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you had been invited to become one of seven directors of a religious corporation which has a mainly tax exempt annual income of one billion dollars; how would your sense of responsibility to uphold the tradition of office (and therefore your own privileges) affect your moral judgement?.

  for example would you let the corporation fail financially for the sake of pursuing a decision on what you understand to be gods will?.

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  If you had been invited to become one of seven directors of a religious corporation which has a mainly tax exempt annual income of one billion Dollars; how would your sense of responsibility to uphold the tradition of office (and therefore your own privileges) affect your moral judgement?

  For example would you let the corporation fail financially for the sake of pursuing a decision on what you understand to be “God’s will”?
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  old Guardian article---any comments ?

  by stan livedeath in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/jun/15/stephenbates

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  Stan it amazes me that there has been no publicity about those who have lost relatives, a child or parent through sticking to the JW teaching of refusing blood. Can anyone imagine the situation where a family have lost a loved one and then realised TTATT. The pain of realising that the death was unnecessary, done just for compliance with a brainless cult... must be terrible.

  Has anyone heard of such cases? I wonder, has anybody tried to sue the WTBTS due to its blood doctrine causing a fatality?
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  Mind control.

  by New day in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a recent thread someone mentioned that the wtbts uses mind control techniques.

  do you think this is a conscious ploy?

  if it is it would mean that the leaders of my religion (i am still an active jw) set out consciously to control people.

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  This is an interesting question with thoughtful replies.

  Hassan’s criteria for mind control, certainly fits the pattern for the method deployed by JW leadership. But I find it hard to imagine that they believe they are practicing some devious dark psychological art themselves. I would suggest that they are using a method of emotional abuse in the way that an unkind and thoughtless parent wants to control a child. For example by threats, fears and guilt. It is a kind of ’grooming’ by the governing body for the purpose of compliance to their will. The GB members are the greatest beneficiaries of the continued financial success of the cult and therefore they exploit the flock to this end.

  What Hassan has done is analyse the nuts and bolts of how it is done and his model works for all people or groups invested with some authority over others who abuse that power, not that they consciously think they are using “mind control”.
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  The borrowed magic of the memorial

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  myth comes from myth and ritual comes from ritual.

  myth and ritual are borrowed in the way fire is borrowed to light another flame.

  john 6:53 says that whoever does not eat (jesus) body and drink his blood will have no life in him.

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  @ Heaven, I read that it is reckoned that more than 80% of the contents of the Bible are taken from pagan beliefs. This is not to say Paganism with a capital P which is a modern incarnation.

  @ azor, certainly but which bits?

  @ HTBWC my purpose was to show what lies at the bottom of the memorial namely cannibal magic, nevertheless I would be interested in knowing what you mean by distinguishing between Pauls words on the matter and those attributed to Jesus.
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  Some Early Church Fathers even ignored the name YHWH

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was reading the bart's answer to terry on th name "jehovah", and i remembered that when i did my personal study about the church fathers of the second century i found that justin martyr ignored the divine name:.

  from the first apology of justin martyr:.

  ... and as many virtues as are peculiar to a god who is called by no proper name.

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  So Justin Martyr got one thing right!